Net2van: How Nonprofits Can Create 10x the Content Without More Work

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This event was recored on September 16, 2020.

 

Are you avoiding the blank page of writing an article, with no idea what to write, and a hundred other things you end up doing instead?

Do you scroll social media for your organization, wishing you had something better to post today?

Creating content doesn’t have to be a headache, it can be fun and easy if we change our mindset and adapt the hacks outlined in this webinar.

This isn’t just the world of content, it’s the world of relationships, audience building, and stewardship online to drive future donations.

But content takes time, so it gets left behind! Sadly though, without YOU creating content, you’re leaving your donors to see nothing but posts about the WE Charity scandal and the latest Kardashian drama!

So if the answer to online presence is more content, the next question is how the heck do you do it?? Nonprofits are so busy. This event will show you HOW to create way more content and reduce the time you spend creating.

With more content you have the chance to connect, learn, improve, and do it all over again.

PS. This video is for everyone in your organization, not just the marketing manager. We can all get involved in content!

Joel Harrison is the founder of ElevateHub.ca (BC impact news and job listings), a social impact podcaster, and marketing consultant for nonprofits and social enterprises. You can find links to everything at https://joelmharrison.com

Chat Log

00:29:53 Dave Frank: Dave, BC Aviation Council, procrastination!
00:30:26 Marc: Hi everybody! I am the Comms manager at Playwrights’ Workshop Montréal in QC. Content challenge: no time to plan in advance!
00:30:27 Virginia Chomley: I’m Virginia, Director of Communications at Take a Hike Foundation :)
00:30:28 Abel Marketing: Ben Abel Abel Marketing Content Marketing Social Media and Strategy. Net2Van Volunteer and operator of the @net2van Twitter account
00:30:40 Allyson McGrane: Allyson, Left Right Minds Initiatives, social media is a time suck
00:30:41 Jodi Stark: Hi everyone. I'm a digital engagement specialist at the David Suzuki Foundation, working on climate and clean energy. There's SO much to do, sometimes it can be paralyzing!
00:30:56 Ria Mukund: I’m Ria, the Digital Communications Volunteer for the BC division of the The Duke of Edinburgh’s International Award in Canada
00:31:03 Growing Chefs!: I’m Jaydeen, the Development & Communications Director at Growing Chefs. My content challenge is actually getting the content posted. We have tons of ideas and creative people, but to actually get the content scheduled and posted seems to be difficult.
00:31:13 Dhalie Patara Plischke: Hello! I'm Dhalie Patara, Director Finance & Technology at Whole Human Foundation. https://wholehumansummit.com/
00:31:15 Abel Marketing: What about a content scheduler
00:31:19 PeaceGeeks: Jean, PeaceGeeks & Net@Van. Content challenge: small team, no capacity
00:31:22 Abel Marketing: Hootsuite Buffer etc
00:31:23 Wan Wan: hello! Wan here from KCR (kelowna community resources )
00:31:59 Elizabeth Moffat: Elizabeth, VGH & UBC Hospital Foundation Comms team, our biggest challenge is narrowing down what to profile/work through the red tape of it.
00:32:06 Bryan: hello, nice to be here. I've been a .NET developer for 12 years and a foster dad of 3 teens for just over a year. i'm always interested in developing tools that help and promote the community
00:32:14 David Palmer: David from Environmental Youth Alliance!
00:32:28 Virginia Chomley: I think with the challenges of adapting to COVID changes in the program, we don’t have access to the youth or programs like we usually do, so lacking some regular content like photos and stories… program staff have just go so much on their plate and I don’t have access.
00:34:05 Kelly Morris: Hi everyone, I’m Kelly - I’m founder at KellyAnnOnline and also a consultant with ViTreo Group in Calgary. I’m also the Netsquared rep in Calgary - thanks for letting me crash your meeting. :P
00:37:07 Jodi Stark: I want snacks! ;)
00:37:17 Abel Marketing: Me too. Miss the pizza.
00:39:11 Dave Frank: snacks r good!
00:39:51 Eli van der Giessen: Hi friends! I’ll be your chat moderator for today!
00:40:13 Eli van der Giessen: Throw Throw your questions in the chat and I’ll interrupt Joel as it fits!
00:40:53 Eli van der Giessen: Are you here for “Budgeting for Nonprofit orgs”? That event has a new link: https://techsoupglobal.zoom.us/my/netsquared
00:44:28 Eli van der Giessen: IDEAS: series of updates that provide value to members (ie. 21 day self care challenge)
00:45:45 Eli van der Giessen: IDEA: reuse the content (info and answering questions) that you’ve already written in an email.
00:47:14 Eli van der Giessen: IDEA: pull out small snippets from a larger document (annual report, etc.)
00:48:08 Eli van der Giessen: IDEA: pull out text and graphics from slide decks
00:48:30 Eli van der Giessen: TASK: take stock of all assets
00:50:41 Eli van der Giessen: IDEA: cut your video into snippets = more sharing opportunities!
00:51:22 Eli van der Giessen: IDEA: document the creation of content like a film shoot. People LOVE inside information.
00:51:49 Eli van der Giessen: Transcription software: https://otter.ai/
00:52:14 Eli van der Giessen: Otter is available at a discount from TechSoup and TechSoup Canada: https://www.techsoupcanada.ca/en/directory/481
00:52:54 Eli van der Giessen: 🇺🇸 nonprofit discount for Otter.ai https://www.techsoup.org/otter-ai
00:53:24 Eli van der Giessen: Quotes over images — classic social media fodder!
00:55:03 Kelly Morris: Hey Eli - remind me to share a new software with you. I bet he’d chat to Techsoup to ensure a discount :)
00:55:13 Eli van der Giessen: TASK: what core content can you create?
00:55:16 Dhalie Patara Plischke: Thanks Joel! Now I know what to do with our 1.5 hr weekly Whole Human Summit sessions that are recorded! Thanks for the link to Ottar
00:56:04 Stephen McInerney: @Eli: Quotes over images — does anyone remember a time before that was the dominant medium….
00:56:11 Eli van der Giessen: @Kelly! consider yourself pinged!
00:57:03 Eli van der Giessen: @Stephen — Ha! I am old! I remember when images in social posts were a RADICAL new idea. ;-)
00:58:00 Eli van der Giessen: @Dhalie — Joel is thrilled he’s helping you spark new approaches with your content.
00:58:17 Eli van der Giessen: TASK: Write down the micro content you could compile
00:58:46 Eli van der Giessen: What questions are emerging for you? What do you still want Joel to cover?
00:59:19 Abel Marketing: Joel Can you please explain how what you are describing relates to content strategy? This stuff here is more about execution?
00:59:39 Eli van der Giessen: TIP: have somebody interview YOU. Have THEM create the content for you!
01:00:34 Stephen McInerney: @Eli: I’m sorry, that’s not a meme, tl;dr
01:00:53 Stephen McInerney: On a serious note, infographics?
01:01:07 Eli van der Giessen: TASK: research podcasts, events or other orgs creating content that could feature you.
01:02:43 Eli van der Giessen: TIP: have a shared place where people can upload their links, photos, videos, etc. …. a Slack or Teams chat, or a folder, or….
01:03:15 S B: This is literally the mission of our digital community hub: TrustD.space !!
01:04:18 Eli van der Giessen: 👀 Hey! If you’re in the Toronto area @Shabs is the co-host of NetSquared Toronto. https://www.meetup.com/netsquared-toronto/
01:04:35 Dhalie Patara Plischke: Agreed! Naming conventions bring order to chaos
01:05:55 Eli van der Giessen: TASK: Create a folder to collect content ideas AND give it some structure.
01:06:54 Eli van der Giessen: TIP: Ask your members to contribute in their own voice.
01:07:18 S B: thanks Eli :)… Hit me on LinkedIn.com/in/badshah or shabs@trustd.space !
01:08:25 Eli van der Giessen: TIP: if you’re asking people for content give them an outline — they need clear instructions.
01:11:49 Eli van der Giessen: TIP: multiple angles for photos = separate social posts.
01:11:50 Stephen McInerney: (Hire a squirrel?)
01:12:48 Eli van der Giessen: TIP: flip the perspective — from the ED to a volunteer to a client
01:13:35 Eli van der Giessen: TIP: rewrite your content with a different framing.
01:15:03 Eli van der Giessen: 📼Watch it again! The video of this event will be posted to http://www.NetSquared.org/blog by Friday.
01:17:27 Eli van der Giessen: TIP: surveyed your members? Now share what they said! Graphs! Photos! Stats!
01:19:38 Eli van der Giessen: How to create a Content Calendar: https://www.elevateclicks.com/the-nonprofit-marketing-blog/how-to-create...
01:20:19 Eli van der Giessen: TASK: find your timeless and popular content… then update and republish.
01:20:49 Eli van der Giessen: BONUS: create welcome series with your BEST and TIMELESS (evergreen) content.
01:22:01 Dave Frank: well done Joel.
01:22:26 Eli van der Giessen: Join the Elevate Hub: https://elevatehub.ca/
01:22:37 Dhalie Patara Plischke: That's excellent to use the SDG framework!! Thanks Joel
01:23:00 Kelly Morris: Thanks!
01:23:48 Dhalie Patara Plischke: I use Later
01:23:59 Niloofar Jafari: Hi all
01:24:11 Dhalie Patara Plischke: https://later.com/
01:25:05 Eli van der Giessen: 50% discount for nonprofits with Asana: https://asana.com/nonprofit
01:25:45 Eli van der Giessen: 50% discount for nonprofits with Later.com too! https://help.later.com/hc/en-us/articles/360042492454-Does-Later-Have-No...
01:26:35 Nikki Tellem: https://hootsuite.com/create-free-account Hootsuite free account: 3 social profiles | 30 Scheduled Messages | 1 user
01:27:06 Ashwin Prabhu: Is the Hootsuite account specific for nonprofits or anyone?
01:28:04 Eli van der Giessen: @Ashwin — that’s the standard free Hootsuite account. But if you want the paid product there’s a nonprofit discount too. https://hootsuite.com/about/hootgiving
01:28:13 Nikki Tellem: It's for anyone. The free account is very usable.
01:28:13 Natasha Durel: Thank you, Joel and Eli!
01:28:20 Ashwin Prabhu: Thank you Nikki
01:28:25 sladroma: Thanks Joel and Eli!
01:28:29 Nikki Tellem: Welcome :)
01:29:10 Eli van der Giessen: 📺 The video will be available by Friday at http://www.NetSquared.org/blog
01:31:52 Ashwin Prabhu: The elevateclicks link has really good content for beginners! Thank you @Eli
01:32:22 Nikki Tellem: Will the chat also be available on the blog? Lots of good info here
01:32:48 Marc: Thank you so much!
01:32:54 Virginia Chomley: Thank you!
01:33:08 Nikki Tellem: Thanks!

 

Transcript

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Eli van der Giessen: Nope, that's definitely not what I wanted to do with the present button two buttons very hard. Hi, their friends, welcome.

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Eli van der Giessen: So you have come into a. Net Squared event where you know this event is being broadcast out of Vancouver, Canada, but obviously we've got people visiting us from from lots of different interesting cities today as i can see in the chat window.

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Eli van der Giessen: Did you start the recording. I did. I'm glad I reminded myself.

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Eli van der Giessen: And that recording will be helpful, because if you need to leave early say arrive late or you need to like review the presentation later.

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Eli van der Giessen: That will be available to you in the next day will make that video available. So, hi. I'm Eli your Net Squared organizer and that squared is this program of tech shoe.

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Eli van der Giessen: That's great, as a global network of tech for good meetups so there are actually about 120 of these groups scattered all across the world, which seems ridiculous, but I've got an app to prove it.

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Eli van der Giessen: And this organization that we all part of tech shoe is a nonprofit that helps other nonprofits like you get implement and use technology effectively.

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Eli van der Giessen: See I promised you a map all those little dots means there is a group. In fact, they can see we've got David here from capacity valley. We've got the Calgary organizers in place. We've got a couple of representatives here for the network.

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Eli van der Giessen: So like every community we have rules and we have values. So I think the first is that we welcome everyone. And the second is that we put community first because we're really here to support each other.

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Eli van der Giessen: The thing that brings us all together is we're here to build stronger nonprofits. So technology is the lens. The tool that we use. But ultimately, ultimately we're here for the sector.

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Eli van der Giessen: We also invite PARTICIPATION. NOW, YES, I DID mute you. By default, just to keep things from getting out of control today, but the chat is open and I'll be monitoring that through the course of the presentation. So please throw your questions in there.

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Eli van der Giessen: And then finally, we have an open chat, which means you need to remember that we treat each other with kindness and respect.

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Eli van der Giessen: So if you got like a hot take to put it into that chat window. Let's take a second and say, Is that, is that the right thing at the right time for you to be sharing and if it is awesome. Go for it.

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Eli van der Giessen: So we totally need you. We help keep this community going with like guest experts like Joel

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Eli van der Giessen: With people who are monitoring the chats with people doing note taking. So if you want to get involved with this group, maybe you've got a super great idea that we should be talking about. Talk to me and I can help you make it an easy process.

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Eli van der Giessen: We also, of course, have sponsors.

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Eli van der Giessen: So the first I want to talk about is tech soup, which is, you know, the parent organization and they connect nonprofits with donated and discounted products.

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Eli van der Giessen: You've seen some of these logos. We're using zoom. There's box calm. There's Amazon this DocuSign this Microsoft has Google

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Eli van der Giessen: If you're thinking about spending some money on software. Start with Texas first because we can save you probably up to 80% in many cases and your tech SIP account just free, so why not

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Eli van der Giessen: Just to give you a sense of what those savings could look like. I put together a model of, say, a little nonprofit with 10 staffers

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Eli van der Giessen: And so what we're seeing here is the retail and then the discounted pricing through our partnership these companies have with tech soup. And as you can see

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Eli van der Giessen: Those discounts start getting pretty huge pretty fast. And that's just like the one year version of that for these those software where you need to, like, get a new version. Well, we're saving you all over again.

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Eli van der Giessen: And of course, there's also the forums that tech soup. So if you have any other questions that weren't able to answer today hop over to those forums, because it's full of other nonprofits consultants and other tech experts.

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Eli van der Giessen: Other sponsors include our friends is payments, if we were together in person today, they'd be buying the first round of drinks because they love you. They're the people you would go to because they are like managing online.

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Eli van der Giessen: Like financial payments. So basically, if you want to take money in through a credit card or a CH transfer

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Eli van der Giessen: I had payments as a company that will help you as a nonprofit do that they only work with nonprofits, they're based in Vancouver, which is nice because if something ever goes wrong. Not that it ever would you know where you can go to gently poke people on the ranch.

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Eli van der Giessen: We also sponsored by a one day website who keeps our website up and happy and healthy and n 10 would be covering the cost of snacks. Again, if we were if

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Eli van der Giessen: They have a great conference which sadly was canceled, but we'll be back together again.

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Eli van der Giessen: I'm holding out hope it's going to happen.

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Eli van der Giessen: And you, of course, could be a sponsor. It'd be a lot of fun. Basically, if you want to access close to 4000

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Eli van der Giessen: nonprofits who are technically curious where the best way to reach that audience. So definitely reach out to me and we can work magic together.

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Eli van der Giessen: So today's guest is but one a singular guest. And so we've got Joel Harrison here he's gonna be talking about how nonprofits can create 10 times the content.

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Eli van der Giessen: Without more work and that sounded like too good to be true, but I'm gonna take him up on that he's up to that challenge so

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Eli van der Giessen: Joel is the founder of elevate hub.ca which is the place for bc impact news and job listings

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Eli van der Giessen: He's also a social impact podcast there and marketing consultant for nonprofits and social enterprises. He also writes real good. So if you're ever looking for someone to make you sound like you're much better than you are. Joe will do that magic for you.

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Eli van der Giessen: does, in fact, a member of the Corps and that to van team and you probably best know him because he was a writer behind all of last year, digital

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Eli van der Giessen: Nonprofit conference emails so give it up for Joel member of our community outstanding man and the way you can do that is in, zoom, there's like this little sort of reaction emoji play. So yeah, throw that reaction right in there. Thank you.

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Eli van der Giessen: And with that over to Joel

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Joel Harrison: Awesome. Thank you. Eli so much for inviting me here. Oh, there's the clap. Nice.

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Joel Harrison: I'm thrilled to be talking about content and marketing with all of you. Thank you for joining and spending some time with us. I also wish there were snacks.

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Joel Harrison: I should have prepared something maybe next time we should figure out how to email snacks or something like that to everyone. We got to figure out the technology.

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Joel Harrison: Let me get my presentation online here.

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Joel Harrison: All right. Can we see

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Joel Harrison: Perfect. So yeah, so Eli mentioned, my name is Joel Harrison.

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Joel Harrison: I have a marketing company called methodical content, you'll see the name there. And what we do is we create content strategy and

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Joel Harrison: Plans training and actually create content for social enterprises and nonprofits. In addition to that, I also recently launched a media site elevate hub.ca where we talk about all of the social impact news for BC, as well as events and job listings on there as well.

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Joel Harrison: So, yeah. Today we're going to be talking about how to create 10 times the content without more work as Eli mentioned, I do like to use words and sometimes I exaggerate.

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Joel Harrison: So without any more work might be a little bit of a stretch. I apologize for the the clickbait. But these are going to be some of the most efficient ways to create content. Some of them actually without more work.

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Joel Harrison: Some of them do require a little bit more work, but we'll, we'll get into that. So sort of

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Joel Harrison: If you do want to contact me or connect with me online or anything like that. My email is here.

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Joel Harrison: As well as my instagram and twitter handle. If you'd like to connect there.

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Joel Harrison: So,

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Joel Harrison: This happens to me. It happens to most people who are tasked with creating some kind of content you sit down and you're faced with that blank screen.

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Joel Harrison: It's staring you in the face looks something like this, it's daunting and it, it's just not inviting you don't want to do it and creating content just gets really hard.

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Joel Harrison: Some people hit that writer's block kind of side of things. And so what do you do, you probably end up pushing it off to later.

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Joel Harrison: You look at your calendar and oh yeah you work in the nonprofit. So this is what your calendar looks like.

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Joel Harrison: You've got too many hats on. You're doing too many different things and creating content just kind of often gets pushed to the side. So that's why, today we're talking about 10 most efficient ways to create content.

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Joel Harrison: And in some cases, without any more work in some cases with minimal amounts of extra work. So we're going to Blitz through a ton of different ideas. Today, different concepts. This will be a very kind of high level touch on a lot of different methods.

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Joel Harrison: But we're not going to necessarily go into extreme detail on any of those. If you'd like to have more conversations later about them and I'm happy to do that. But this is going to be a bit more of a high level.

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Joel Harrison: List of methods we can take to create more content now.

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Joel Harrison: First, we got to set a little bit of groundwork.

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Joel Harrison: Some content is promotional content and we need to distinguish between this and another type of content because emotional content is

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Joel Harrison: Something that is directed towards a service a program or a call to action of something your organization does. So this is your standard kind of

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Joel Harrison: You know, asked to donate type of content, you've all done this before, but this type of content is something that is not inherently valuable on its own. It directs people towards something else that is valuable.

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Joel Harrison: And that is something that we just need to distinguish between impactful content because this type of content. You can't just

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Joel Harrison: Create a ton more of it because asking people to donate over and over and over and over again is not giving them value.

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Joel Harrison: So instead what we want to talk about is impactful content and I'm a firm believer that marketing on itself should be impactful and can be. And by that I mean that if the organization.

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Joel Harrison: Were to create marketing that did the same thing as the organization does in terms of towards the same mission that marketing can stand alone as an impactful piece is an impactful activity as opposed to just an activity that drives people towards a product or service or program.

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Joel Harrison: So there's just a quick example here of this organization that's providing a valuable piece of content to their audience.

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Joel Harrison: This is a 21 day kind of email driven course where they're giving a little bit of information to this new subscriber each day about

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Joel Harrison: Ending violence and and starting with yourself in that case. So this is a type of content that is impactful on its own.

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Joel Harrison: Regardless of what the organization does this stands alone is something that has impact. And that's the type of marketing where

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Joel Harrison: People can see it and connect with it and get value from it and build a relationship with you. And so you can keep providing more and more content like this where it creates value.

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Joel Harrison: And inside of that you can, you know, deliver some of those promotional types of content. But this is the type of content that we're talking about today, creating more of because people want that type of value.

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Joel Harrison: So ask yourself if my nonprofit didn't exist with this content still work to advance the same mission.

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Joel Harrison: And it's just a nice little litmus test, you can ask yourself about the content on whether it, it follows that impactful type of content model. So we're going to go through 10 methods. The first one here find content, you didn't know you already created this one is I love this one because

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Joel Harrison: It sometimes catches people off guard in terms of what have we done before that we can actually just use as content.

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Joel Harrison: And the first one here is emails. So we've all answered emails. We've sent tons of emails and I'm talking about direct emails. These are emails to other colleagues emails to other organizations emails to

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Joel Harrison: You know, corporate partners or program associates these types of emails, where you're answering some type of question.

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Joel Harrison: Or giving some sort of information about your industry sector, your programs, your insights into how recipients feel about your programs.

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Joel Harrison: There's so much in these emails that you can actually pull out and use that as a piece for your content, whether it's an article or video or something on social media.

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Joel Harrison: So there's also phone calls, similar to the the email type of situation, little bit harder to go back and see, like, hey, what type. What did we say in those phone calls.

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Joel Harrison: But sometimes you say things over and over again. Common phone call lines that you're talking to, whether it's prospective donors or

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Joel Harrison: Or partners or something like that new partners, you're talking about very similar things often. And so if you find those these common

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Joel Harrison: Phrases or things that keep coming up. That's often fuel for articles or other content that you can be creating and it's something you're already doing. You already know that it's there.

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Joel Harrison: Let's skip through some of these to get a little faster here method seven is flip the angles. So if we're struggling for

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Joel Harrison: Variety struggling for different ideas because sometimes we get stuck, taking the same pictures, taking the same type of article that we're writing and that help that slows us down because we get less inspired

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Joel Harrison: I would encourage everyone to start physically flipping the angle. So if you're taking photos.

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Joel Harrison: Literally start just taking photos, looking at taking photos, looking down look sideways. Flip the angle of what you're doing.

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Joel Harrison: And if you're doing some kind of event, you can actually find 345 different unique angles.

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Joel Harrison: And use those as three, four and five different posts on social media, just because you have one event doesn't mean it has to be one post on social media.

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Joel Harrison: You can use multiple angles to to create that uniqueness and that variety. So just as an example, we got a forest here we've got a standard shot on the left.

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Joel Harrison: And of looking at those trees, but then you can shoot that angle directly up and it looks vastly different. And then you can actually, you know, take a closer look at one tree, or you could zoom in right onto one leaf. And you can do this with events. You can do this with

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Joel Harrison: You know products or things that you're offering office layouts zoom in super close on someone's pizza sitting on the table. Zoom out super far to show the whole team. Look at those different angles that you can show your organization.

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Joel Harrison: Different angles of view, who's the perspective coming from. Can you get a note or something from your executive director, can you get a quote from one of your donors your volunteers.

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Joel Harrison: We're looking at who's perspective which we were just talking about the IT department has a certain perspective on what your organization does and

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Joel Harrison: And that can help you create a variety of content, even if it's about the same topic because they're different points of view.

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Joel Harrison: And then topic framing as well. So if you have an article, there's generally an opposite view you can take to that article and not opposite. As in, you have to disagree with what you just wrote

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Joel Harrison: but opposite in terms of how you frame it. So here's a couple of examples. If you had an article titled The emotional toll of the climate crisis.

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Joel Harrison: Now you can retitle it and call it avoid the emotional toll of the climate crisis. It's a slight tweak and you could probably use about half of the content from the first article into the second one rework it and add a little bit

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Joel Harrison: If this was an article you could actually reframe that and what would you tell your friend who is anxious about the climate crisis. So it's relatively the same content, but it's a different framing. It's a different wording, it's a different perspective. And it's a different

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Joel Harrison: Sorry. So my advice here find a good piece of content, you've done in the past, social media post picture and try to flip the angle. See if there's a different version that you can do have a very similar type of topic or or event.

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Joel Harrison: Okay, and then curating content. Again, back to this idea of if you don't have to do it yourself. Don't

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Joel Harrison: Find someone else who's creating content that's really valuable that your audience would find value in and be able to share that yourself. So instead of creating it. You can find it, share it compile it and provide that to your audience as well.

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Joel Harrison: So this is particularly effective with content like email newsletters or in magazines, where the natural tendency is to to link to or have lots of different pieces of content in there.

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Joel Harrison: Some organizations find it difficult to do email newsletters, because they don't create enough content.

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Joel Harrison: But I'm often often recommending that organizations smaller ones that don't have a lot of content could create one original piece to original pieces and then put in four or five other

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Joel Harrison: Curated pieces as well. And these could be articles that the images that could be quotes. Always. You want to make sure you're giving credit showing appreciation for that actually did create it.

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Joel Harrison: But just as an example, this this Instagram account has 1.9 million followers and all it does is curate content curators photos. And actually if you look at this one.

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Joel Harrison: The text in the post is even curated, it's a quote from Art wolf. So the photo is curated and the text is curated and that's what this account does. They have a 1.9 million followers. So curation is an incredibly viable strategy that can be used.

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Joel Harrison: So find an image article or story from an organization you're closely associated with and ask if you can share it.

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Joel Harrison: With credit with a link if it's a link to an article and you want to put it in your in your newsletter, you probably don't have to ask

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Joel Harrison: Because you're linking to the direct, direct piece, but if you want to use someone image or something like that on your social media. You'll definitely want to ask for permission.

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Joel Harrison: And then this one be curious and ask questions.

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Joel Harrison: And probably almost done here. But we're, we're almost there. We got two more. So be curious and ask questions.

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Joel Harrison: So all you have to do with this type of content is actually just come up with the questions and this can be a really great way to connect with people and get them engaged.

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Joel Harrison: And you don't even have to have the expertise. So the content of the perspective. And you can do this on so many different platforms and stories and posts and polls surveys images emails.

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Joel Harrison: There's a lot of different ways you can ask questions and it gets engagement, it gets people thinking and you understand their perspective.

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Joel Harrison: Now if you've got answers from them. Now you have content you can use all of those answers as content you can compile them, put them into an article you can share it on social media.

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Joel Harrison: So why don't you go ahead and just list off, five, six. So questions you can ask your audience on social media or through a pole.

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Joel Harrison: Or direct email the trying to elicit that engagement without having to really create any content, other than a question. Here's an example of tourism awareness for two Fino Tofino tourism awareness.

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Joel Harrison: They do this a lot. They actually share what they're they're thinking are doing through Instagram stories and ask a question. So in this post. They've taken their Instagram story.

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Joel Harrison: They were asking about over tourism in Tofino and 96% of people said yes and 44% of people said no, there isn't over, tourism, they took that story screenshot it and now turned it into a post talking about the results of that question and then in the next frame.

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Joel Harrison: They even took a screenshot of the stats of that question. So you can see that not only is it 90 whatever it was 6%

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Joel Harrison: But 139 people voted for yes and six for now because it could have been three for yes and one for now. But in this case they're showing those numbers and they're showing that kind of behind the scenes to what they've been asking and talking about

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Joel Harrison: And then method number 10 here at the end reshare and republish you'd be surprised.

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Joel Harrison: But if you think about it, most of your new followers your new subscribers. If their email subscribers. They're not going to go back and look at every piece of content that you've done.

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Joel Harrison: Not the emails back your social media posts that might scroll a little bit, but they're not going to go way back. And all of that content can be used.

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Joel Harrison: Actually re shared again to people that are newly subscribed so go back and look at your content to see what's timeless some content. You can't reshare because it was

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Joel Harrison: For particular time was an event or something like that. But there might be timeless content you create an educational data driven quote driven opinion based that is easily reshare there's no

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Joel Harrison: No need to really look beyond just sharing it with your new subscribers. And then there's republishing republishing is slightly different, because

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Joel Harrison: You actually need to update the content slightly so maybe you wrote an article. A few years ago, but now there's new data or there's new insights or there's new

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Joel Harrison: New updates in into your industry or technology. So what you can do is actually take that old article and reformat it and change the things that need to be edited.

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Joel Harrison: For it to be new valuable content that's that's relevant again and then you can reshare it republish it on your website update the dates and all of that. So you're essentially taking what you had before and just making it more relevant to what it is today.

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Joel Harrison: So your task here is to go through each of your channels for the past few years, and note every piece that is timeless. It can be shared, or could be updated and republished

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Joel Harrison: And then a little bonus here for new email subscribers or new donors that come onto your email list.

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Joel Harrison: I would recommend if you can do it. Create a series of emails, or even just one. Start with one your welcome email.

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Joel Harrison: And point them to your best content, your best timeless content that you've created. Maybe it's a big collection of photos from something or maybe it's an educational piece that gives them a ton of value.

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Joel Harrison: Or several pieces. If you could do a couple of emails over that first couple of weeks when someone's a new donor, a new subscriber keeps them engaged. It looks like you're creating a ton more content.

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Joel Harrison: And it's showing them your best stuff right from the beginning, stuff that they probably wouldn't have seen otherwise. So there's a another nice little tip to to create more content, or at least show that you're creating a lot of content to your new subscribers.

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Joel Harrison: And then just remember that people want you to make more great content. Seriously, it's not just me. I don't want you to make nuke while I do want you to make more content.

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Joel Harrison: But people want to see your content they're getting tired of coven forest fires, we scandals.

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Joel Harrison: It. They need to see things that are valuable in driving the conversations forward in creating the impact the organization is is on the journey to create

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Joel Harrison: So please go out and make more content, the more content you make, the more you can learn from it, the more you can get feedback on it and the more your organization can have an impact with a bigger audience.

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Joel Harrison: So just a little note back to elevate what I was talking about earlier. I'm on a kind of a mission to elevate the impact industry in BC.

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Joel Harrison: With this platform. So one of the projects that I'm working on right now is to build a directory of social enterprises and nonprofits. It's going to be connected with the events and the jobs and the platform.

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Joel Harrison: In that way, but I want to create a comprehensive directory that can be filtered by different industries by St. Geez, by cities and really bring a lot of the impact activity and organizations to the forefront of where people can find it easily. So if you willing to help you out to be

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Joel Harrison: Really awesome go to elevate hub.ca slashed submit and you can add your organization.

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Joel Harrison: Through a form there. And then when the technology is updated, which should be fairly soon your organization will be

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Joel Harrison: already listed in that directory. So yeah, that would be awesome. And if you want to connect with me again, there's my email my Twitter and yeah really appreciate it. Thank you so much. If anyone has any questions, feel free.

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Eli van der Giessen: Rock on. Thank you so much. Joel really appreciate that. And there was some like kind of super killer tips in there.

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Eli van der Giessen: You know now. So here's a as everyone is sort of preparing to put their other questions into the chat. Here's one that I said I'm pulling from some of the other initial comments so people are like, Okay, I have

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Eli van der Giessen: A whole bucket load of amazing powerful content.

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Eli van der Giessen: But, but now they're like, how do I create some rhythm for myself. So I actually start getting it out there and scheduling it

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Joel Harrison: And you have any suggestions around things like content calendars or scheduling.

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Joel Harrison: Yeah, lots of I've used so many different kinds and the easiest place to start with a content calendar is a spreadsheet.

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Joel Harrison: Everyone has access to it. Everyone knows how to use a spreadsheet. I don't like putting it in actual calendars, like a Google Calendar.

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Joel Harrison: I find that content in there. It just ends up cluttering up your physical meetings and events and things like that. And then people stop looking at the content. So I like to keep us dedicated content calendar.

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Joel Harrison: The first version would be an email or a spreadsheet. The second version would be a task manager, something like a sauna, or to do kind of program to hello

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Joel Harrison: I'm a big fan of a sauna. I think that they're very robust task manager that can be used for content calendars pretty easily.

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Joel Harrison: But if you're scared of task managers, a spreadsheet is fantastic. In terms of actually organizing your content so that you can distribute it

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Joel Harrison: Marketing Mondays, or something like that, where it's like a consistent type of content every day or particular day of the week. And that's one way to do it, but sometimes that Consistency from a

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Joel Harrison: From your audience perspective can be hard to keep up but consistency in terms of What content do you produce so

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Joel Harrison: For example, some organizations. We're curating content for LinkedIn every Thursday. So we have a list of all of our links of articles that we want to curate

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Joel Harrison: And then every Thursday we post our curated article on Thursday. Now, it's not so consistent that somebody's going to notice it from an audience perspective.

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Joel Harrison: But it's consistent enough that from a team perspective, you know, Thursday curated content. I'm going to take five minutes and go post that link. So that's one tip that I would really highly recommend is steaming your activity around content.

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Eli van der Giessen: Awesome. That's super helpful.

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Eli van der Giessen: So I had another question here from some people who are saying like we are kind of trapped in this Copa moment.

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Eli van der Giessen: Some people, you know, we're doing like in person events with youth. Obviously, they don't have that kind of access. Now, so some of their ability to capture the content as they used to do it.

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Eli van der Giessen: Has changed picking on the some of the ideas you talked about so far. What would you maybe recommend to a group like this, which was used to do in person events with you.

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Joel Harrison: My first recommendation would be to go back and and look at our topic. I don't remember which number, it was but on

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Joel Harrison: Basically re sharing and reworking your old content. So any of the the methods where you're looking back at previous content that you've done and finding new ways to format finding new angles.

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Joel Harrison: To produce something on those can all be really helpful when you're you're limited in what you can capture what you can, you know, physically do because you're stuck behind your computer at home.

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Joel Harrison: So that would be one of the first places to look

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Joel Harrison: The other kind of angle that you could look at it is in terms of getting participation from other people to create the content. So you might not be the one

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Joel Harrison: Taking the photo now because you're stuck behind your computer. You're not physically where the rest of your team is so eliciting your other team members help or the

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Joel Harrison: You know, whoever's involved in that program to that activity getting their help to create content and being very open about becoming a content organization.

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Joel Harrison: And wanting to document and share what you're working on really involves getting other people's help and so conversations with your leadership team conversations with your other departments, your fundraising teams.

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Joel Harrison: Around okay what are, what are you doing on a daily basis. What are you doing on an activity level, and how could some of that potentially be captured and then shared through our content activities.

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Eli van der Giessen: Awesome. Thank you so much. At this point, I think, to make an end. We've gone through our, our, I'm really grateful for us.

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Eli van der Giessen: To give us some time with me. Go for it.

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Eli van der Giessen: Sort of just the

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Stephen McInerney: Yeah, sure. So I'm coming back from the commercial world where, you know, there's always a call to action.

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Stephen McInerney: You know whether you know whatever, you know, click, you know, even if it's just like click on this link to this catalog subscribe

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Stephen McInerney: And I'm not a fan of that. Anyway, but even also when applied to, you know, nonprofit you know sign our petition, you know, voting stuff just sort of, you know, mindless activism, just for the sake of

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Joel Harrison: Engagement.

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Stephen McInerney: No, but I mean, some people say you should have some people say, some people say you can't afford not to

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Stephen McInerney: But if you don't, then it's hard to measure the engagement like did they reach the bottom of the article. Did they like the market that they forward it. How do you strike a balance and and do you have, what sort of analytics, you have to see.

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Joel Harrison: TOUGH PIECE. I think when you're talking about, you know, some engagement rates if it's click from a social media post onto an article or click from here or play the video.

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Joel Harrison: You know subscribers or donors those numbers where the drop off and disconnect. Is it can be a pretty fuzzy gray area. You're absolutely right. But I think, to your point, you don't want to

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Joel Harrison: Not have the opportunity for someone to connect deeper with you, if that makes sense. So, while not every piece of content. If you're reading an article and three times within the article, you're saying, hey, subscribe to our newsletter. Hey, donate to this. Hey, do this.

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Joel Harrison: That's going to wear people out really quickly, but having the opportunity for them to connect deeper at almost any point

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Joel Harrison: Is pretty essential in my my opinion. So whether it's if they're on your website is at the bottom of the blog post where you have some kind of standard call to action. It's always there.

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Joel Harrison: Or is it on the sidebar or is on social media. Every so often you're you're asking people to sign up to your email list or something like that. I'm not a big fan of asking for donations directly on social media.

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Joel Harrison: But if you can get people to sign up to receive more value receive videos, articles, emails, something that will help them to have more impact with you.

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Stephen McInerney: Actually see a complete burnout with social the darker side of social media.

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Stephen McInerney: Yeah, November, the fourth is going to be in the very beginning just just know. I mean, people will come back on Facebook.

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Joel Harrison: Yeah, it's definitely a weird a weird time and there's just so many people that are finding you know it's getting more cluttered online because everyone's

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Joel Harrison: Where half of things used to be offline but but half, you know, not really, but so many activities happen offline. And now virtually everything is online. So the volume of everything has gotten up so much even taking out the entire

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Joel Harrison: Pandemic Black Lives Matter controversies politics all of that taking all of that out just the volume of people that have shifted to virtual and creating content has gone up.

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Joel Harrison: Yeah. So yeah.

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Eli van der Giessen: I hear it. Yeah. So that sounds good. I again want to thank everyone for staying with us this evening. Joel You're basically a national treasure super, super grateful for this. Thank you so much.

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Eli van der Giessen: And we're going to put you to work in the mean in the future. But for those who want to go and like dig more deeply into this or say like, what did he say about 32 minutes into this

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Eli van der Giessen: You can will have the video available and will send a link to everyone who joined us today in the next little while so that's coming soon. Otherwise, thank you so much. You're the best friends.

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Joel Harrison: Thank you so much.

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Eli van der Giessen: And yes to Nikki The chat log will also be available.

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Stephen McInerney: I want to know how much he paid the squirrel for taking the photos, the tree, looking down

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Joel Harrison: And not nonprofit rate.

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Stephen McInerney: It was scoring unionized

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Joel Harrison: Awesome ticker.

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Eli van der Giessen: Alright, see, I'm going to do the old shut down.